Old Ned Kay 13 9 3 w 36 hits revisited 25 1 17

No, when I visit the homes of my two closest males friends whom I shall call P and K you very quickly understand who they are because all their most important forefathers are sitting on their drawing room walls looking down on you from portraits at least as far back as the mid-nineteenth century which is where my blogs takes us today..?

And the realization I am in all probability the rightful owner of the mantle that was adorned by that most venerable forefather of mine known as O.N.K. from Bury..?

You see when I was a kid growing up in that town I was an off-comer: my family having moved there during WW ll from Manchester and my father was an Ed like me only he was an Edw*** whilst I was an Edm***. And our family was riddled through with Edm***'s and Edw***'s on all sides which didn't make it any easier unraveling this particular conundrum until that is the latest Edm arrived on the scene 13 6 8 the newly arrived son to my godson T, my sister's youngest of three sons, who gave the boy my name, which stirred me into action.

Now I got the name Edm from my mother whose favourite brother was also called Edm the middle of three: Rob and Geo the other two, though she had an uncle Edw and her husband was also an Edw. And her uncle of that name's father was Teddy H**** so now I begin to understand that Ned is not pet for Edw's..?

Then my grandfather on my mother's side took me swimming in the town of Bury as a kid and treated me to a history lesson about this guy J Kay who arguably was one or other of the town's first two sons...the guy who in 1733 invented the Flying Shuttle a key piece in the industrial revolution which was gathering pace when ONK moved from Bury to Manchester in the late 1840's early 1850's according to my son S who has recently researched our family tree on the internet. The other famous son was Robert Peel, father of the London Bobby...

According to R Kay my granddad, we had descended from the father of J Kay through a bastard son of his sister Mary and a man called Bolton and that J Kay was my granddad's Great Great Uncle. Now S my son's researches prove the bastard part to be true but a Berry not a Bolton, and though Mary gave the child name and Edm if she was a sister of J Kay he had to be several generations earlier from the more famous JK. But granddad did add that "Bolton" forfeited his horse trap and fine life style by not making an honest woman of Mary..?

So my Great Great Grandfather was this Edm Kay born in Bury in 1827 at Cobbas and by 1852 was living near Manchester Cathedral where he married, producing a son named Rob, my great granddad, father of the guy who treated me to the history lesson and who also had a brother Edm.

And whilst my uncle Edm had a son they called Edm neither one had any connection to Bury, nor claims therefore to the sobriquet OldNedKay from Bury.

Have a good day everyone!

pics of Cobbas as it stands today, rebuilt around 1805 according to the present owner.